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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: Exaktar 2.8 35mm |
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Retro wrote:
Today I got the "Exaktar 2.8 35mm" (M42).
I am interested in appraisals of this lens.
Don´t be shy. I got it on a flea market for 5 Euros and I own wonderful other M42-lenses, so I can stand negative estimations. _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Retro!
They are no bad lens, only different _________________ T* |
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
Today I made a comparison between my Flektogon (alu 35/2.8 ) and the Exaktar (35/2.8 ) and was astonished, how brave the Exaktar could stand the competition:
Strange is in my view, that one can nearly find nothing in the web about the Exaktar-lenses... _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
I've heard of them Retro and have also read mostly negative comments - the latter of which, your sample appears to disprove quite nicely indeed. |
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
Confusing for me is the fact, that the pictures I could see in the web about the "Exaktar 50 /2.8" where different from my copy. They had the title "Auto" (which my copy has not) and the did not have the metal silver ring for the aperture, which mine has (see picture):
There were also so few information about its production.
Some write about "Ihagee" (east or west Germany) - Others claim the production in Korea.
Has anyone more information about this lens please? _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Unfortunately no. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
There was indeed an Exakta mount Exaktar lens produced in the 1950's as a basic kit lens and IIRC it was reputed to not have a particularly good reputation.
It looks to me like your lens is of more modern Far Eastern origin although where and by whom, I don't know. It could be too that yours is an earlier example made by a different factory from the ones you're seeing on the web. |
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
Thank you, bob955i and Attila.
My difficult investigations in the web brouht me the following results and assumptions:
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My copy of the Exaktar 35/2.8 (with the silver metal aperture-ring). is probably produced in Japan für "Ihagee-West" - it has a good image quality, because it is an imitation of the "Zeiss Distagon 35 / 2.8". Nevertheless exist newer versions (black plastik aperture-ring), which are of lesser quality. |
_________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I don't think so any Exaktar lenses can be close to any Carl Zeiss lenses. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
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Difficult to say me politely , so I say raw , sorry. This is bullshit |
No problem.
Thank you very much in contrary for your frankness.
The comparison with Carl Zeiss lenses is not a statement from me and I am interested in a serious information-archeology.
One of my spare web-sources was: http://www.ihagee.org/top02.htm (scroll down to "Exaktar").
Or such sources: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280245703164#ebayphotohosting _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oh, great I wouldn't want to hurt you , so after little hesitate I removed genuine post. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
You did not hurt me in any way. Please feel free to publish your original posting with "bullshit".
I published speculations and it is important and necessary, to correct such speculations.
You know, I am a believer in Carl Zeiss lenses too and not "in love" with the "Exaktar".
I read the negative appraisal of LucisPictor (who is a reliable source for me) about this lens and expected to get it verified.
But my first experiments with it gave better results, so I started my frustrating recherche about the lens.
What annoyed me rather was, that in fact I could found nearly nothing valid about the brand mark "Exaktar". _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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What annoyed me rather was, that I in fact could found nearly nothin valid about the brand mark "Exaktar". Rolling Eyes |
This is interesting really. Sometimes we can find really nice lenses in junk I got an auto revuenon 135mm f2.8 lens from Carsten (LucisPictor) That was a suprise me too really.It is sharp wide open! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
There must exist many copies of the Exaktar lenses like Helios.
Finding "nothing" about it in the web can mean, that it is like Helios underestimated or it is in deed bulk of lesser quality.
Again I like to point out, that I found no image of the "Exaktar 35 / 2.8" with this silver metal ring like my copy has, which could indicate, that there are circulating different versions with different quality. _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Retro wrote: |
There must exist many copies of the Exaktar lenses like Helios.
Finding "nothing" about it in the web can mean, that it is like Helios underestimated or it is in deed bulk of lesser quality.
Again I like to point out, that I found no image of the "Exaktar 35 / 2.8" with this silver metal ring, which could indicate, that there are different versions whith different quality. |
Yes it is underrated lenses are not documented at all. Should be a nice project to save this one too and document their advantages and disadvantages. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Sevo
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Reviving an old thread - I just received a Topcon mount (Exakta, but flange integral aperture actuator) 135/2.8 Exaktar. Looks like my RE200/RE300 Topcon branded lenses (the cameras seem also to have been marketed as Carena and Exakta), which I assume to be Tokina made.
Sevo _________________ Sevo |
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blaahhi
Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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blaahhi wrote:
Sevo wrote: |
Reviving an old thread - I just received a Topcon mount (Exakta, but flange integral aperture actuator) 135/2.8 Exaktar. Looks like my RE200/RE300 Topcon branded lenses (the cameras seem also to have been marketed as Carena and Exakta), which I assume to be Tokina made.
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The Topcor branded lenses that came with Topcon RE200/RE300 were made by Cima Kogaku. After the demise of Topcon, Cima Kogaku sold the lenses in its own brand, Cimko/Cimako, and I think, branded also at least as Exaktar, Carenar, Quantaray, Focal, and Revuenon. Maybe also Rikenon.
Maybe someone more knowledgeable can fill in more, this seems to belong to the more fuzzy area of Japanese lens history...
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 748 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I have Carenar EET 35/2.8 and 135/2.8 in Topcon RE mount. Both are engraved "Made In Korea". They appear to be from the same time period as my Topcon RE200. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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aliasant
Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 39 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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aliasant wrote:
Im sitting here trying to convert a Topcor 35mm 2.8 to Pentax PK/A Mount. Halfway there but its hard to get infinity..... |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2491
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:58 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I have this one.
Auto Exaktar 35mm F2.8 by random dump, on Flickr
For close ups it's okay i guess. A bit dreamy.
apple by random dump, on Flickr _________________ pentaxian |
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